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In article <2k6uke$[e-mail]>,
Oleg Zabluda <[e-mail]> wrote:
>Check your IRQ's first. I believe everybody in this group had problems
>with COMMERCIAL real COMMUNICATION software because of this and the fact
>that Windows sucks in terms of  handling COM ports and interrupts.
>
>Oleg.

Sorry, but ProcommPLUS for Windows is FLAWLESS at 57600 and V.fc modems on
the same com port.  Its only Peter's WINSOCK SLIP that bites the big one.

The thing is that the data is not LOST.  Its being held up somewhere inside
the Winsock code, because eventually the logjam clears with <no> further
retransmissions from the host.

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Subject: Re: I'm ready to spend money - free and shareware WINSOCK not ok

In article <2k8ah6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Karl Denninger) writes:

>Sorry, but ProcommPLUS for Windows is FLAWLESS at 57600 and V.fc modems on
>the same com port.  Its only Peter's WINSOCK SLIP that bites the big one.

It is always interesting to see that virtually everyone, from all over the
world, would have no problem using Trumpet Winsock - then here comes a bunch
of people, all from the same access provider, who are having problems. Makes
one wonder if it is not just a problem setting up.

Just for the record, I have never had problem with Trumpet Winsock dialing and
connecting since beta 18 and through all the various pre-release versions. My
FTP speed is on the order of high 1500 to 1600 or so cps on compressed files -
which is just about right.

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Subject: Re: I'm ready to spend money - free and shareware WINSOCK not ok

In article <[e-mail]>,
Patrick Lee <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <2k8ah6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Karl Denninger) writes:
>
>>Sorry, but ProcommPLUS for Windows is FLAWLESS at 57600 and V.fc modems on
>>the same com port.  Its only Peter's WINSOCK SLIP that bites the big one.
>
>It is always interesting to see that virtually everyone, from all over the
>world, would have no problem using Trumpet Winsock - then here comes a bunch
>of people, all from the same access provider, who are having problems. Makes
>one wonder if it is not just a problem setting up.

All from one provider?  Sorry, I have seen plenty of postings from OTHER
providers.  If its on our end why does Alpha 17 work FLAWLESSLY while 18+
and 1.0A fail?  How about the fact that all of our MAC customers running
INTERSLIP work fine?   My Powerbook 180, which I use regularly, runs
flawlessly.  It is <only> the PC platform that has trouble.  Chameleon is
known to be ok too, but Chameleon is $400!  For that kind of money it had
<better> work.

>Just for the record, I have never had problem with Trumpet Winsock dialing and
>connecting since beta 18 and through all the various pre-release versions. My
>FTP speed is on the order of high 1500 to 1600 or so cps on compressed files -
>which is just about right.

Sure, your FTP speed is ok.

Now go into QVT and open some telnet sessions.  When I do that I see long
pauses in the stream -- it is apparently a problem with <short> packets
which get held for some indeterminate amount of time.

Before you point the finger at QVT I have the same problem with TRMPTEL.

FTPs perform normally, as does Gopher and Mosaic.   All of those put a
distinctly different load on the system than a telnet do (they close
streams after sending the data, which could cause a flush and thus prevent
the problem from occurring, etc).

Unfortunately, some of us think that Telnet is an integral part of this
kind of service and expect that it will work properly.

My standards for recommending that people grab, and more importantly,
<REGISTER> and <PAY FOR> some piece of software are high.  Perhaps much
higher than some other folks.  I consider this to be a significant business
opportunity for the software author who wants to meet the challenge and
make some money in the process.

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Subject: Re: I'm ready to spend money - free and shareware WINSOCK not ok

[e-mail] (Karl Denninger) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>Patrick Lee <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>In article <2k8ah6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Karl Denninger) writes:
>>
>>>Sorry, but ProcommPLUS for Windows is FLAWLESS at 57600 and V.fc modems on
>>>the same com port.  Its only Peter's WINSOCK SLIP that bites the big one.
>>
>>It is always interesting to see that virtually everyone, from all over the
>>world, would have no problem using Trumpet Winsock - then here comes a bunch
>>of people, all from the same access provider, who are having problems. Makes
>>one wonder if it is not just a problem setting up.

    Actually, I've never even met Karl, just seen alot of his postings,
and I'm having the same probably (and am in the same situation)  I want to
provide a very easy package of programs (really like QVT/NET) that they
can use to connect to our system via SL/ip under Windows.   I'm using
the newest version of TRUMP WINSOCK and after a random amount of time, my
SL/ip connection locks up completely.

    I have over 2000 users and growing that would like to play with
SL/ip, but this major bug is preventing me, so far, from recommending this
sort of setup.

    Karl...pls post a followup of what you get...

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Subject: Re: Pathworks and Trumpet.....

In article <2ju5gs$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Ken Chen) writes:
>
> Sorry folks.  I know this topic has been touched upon.
>
> Could some please re-post the installation instructions for Trumpet Winsock
> drivers and Pathworks to co-exist?  Basically I need a model autoexec.bat and
> where to find the packet driver provided by DEC.
>
Here's my AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS - hopefully enough info for you,
regards,  John Kruiniger.

echo off
break on
prompt $p$g
call \decnet\STARTNET
set spath=%path%
set ip=202.20.103.17
loadhigh doskey
%_sysd%\local\pwlogin                          - this is a local thing
loadhigh j:\winsock\winpkt 0x60 0x62           - this is the relevant bit
m:\pcsa\autouser.bat

device=hiMEM.sys
device=emm386.exe 512 i=b000-b7ff i=c800-cfff x=d000-dfff frame=e000 a=5 h=64 d=48 ram
buffers=30
files=50
devicehigh=mouse.sys
devicehigh=ansi.sys
shell=\command.com /P /E:1008
device=\decnet\protman.sys /I:A:\DECNET
device=\decnet\DEPCA.DOS                       - this is the driver for a DE202
devicehigh=\decnet\dis_pkt.dos
country=061,,country.sys
dos=high,umb
stacks=0,0
fcbs=1
break on
lastdrive=p